Students and Graduates!
Ever been told, “I don’t care that you have a PhD,” and felt the wind leave your sails? I take that line apart and rebuild it into a roadmap for landing industry roles where your research mindset becomes a competitive advantage. Across this candid session, I unpack
- Decoding the industry value system and outcomes
- Mapping thesis work to product thinking
- Addressing assumptions about lack of experience
- Turning research stories into time-boxed deliveries
- Responding to stereotypes with clear proof
- Practical steps to build networks and internships
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Phdcareersholly. (2021, December 13). What industries really value… and how to leverage this in your post-PhD job hunt. PostGradual: The PhD Careers Blog.
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Read the transcript
Hello students and graduates,
Welcome to PhD Launch, the
podcast of Late Night talks in
which PhDs have a drink and talk
about their research topics.
Have you ever come across
employers who say this?
I don't care that you have a
PhD.
You've likely heard that
statement very often, pushing
yourself as unfit for industry
standards.
And then you have several
thoughts of being overqualified,
having high standards for being
an academic, or lacking the know
how of the value system of
industry.
These and other thoughts you
might have running around your
mind make you feel disheartened
and then you question yourself.
I spent several years
researching countless hours
networking and sought as many
non academic experiences as I
could to obtain my PhD.
Why am I getting rejected by
industry employers?
But what if I told you employers
actually care that you have a
PhD?
Our minds can wander to many
different places when we hear
any prospective employers
dismissing our efforts.
However, when they say that,
they aren't asked why, and if
they were, they would probably
dismiss it through blank
answers.
After doing some research, I
found these three points that
could highlight the nuance
between what employers say and
what they mean by that to PhDs
who seek industry jobs, myself
included.
So what is it that that they
want and what can we do to
enrich our working experience
beyond academia #1 is the
industry value system.
When employers are thinking of
hiring pH DS, they will not look
at the outcome of your work, but
rather into what happens under
the tip of the iceberg.
That is, they will value how
you've applied your core skills,
including time management,
project management, and data
analysis.
They are also interested to know
whether your PhD is an
innovative work that can be used
as a product for customers.
You could tell them that you
analyzed research gaps,
literature, trends, and case
studies from your thesis and how
you could apply them into an
industry setting.
Though this depends on the job
you're applying for #2 regards
the lack of industry experience.
Most employers assume that PhDs
don't have the raw experience of
working in the industry because
doctoral graduates are overly
specialized, falling behind on
practical common sense skills,
business standards, and the
constant market changes and
uncertainties.
For example, if there's a task
that might be completed within
two hours, but you completed it
after that, then any employer
will think that you have poor
time management.
However, pH DS are now more
aware of these preconceptions.
They're improving and developing
their skills through
internships, employability
programs, and networking events
offered by universities for
PhDs, making that academic to
industry transition.
The final point is that
employers are biased against
PhDs.
While you may know how you can
transfer your skills from
academia into the industry of
your choice, employers still
hold onto various stereotypes
that PhDs consider themselves
the experts in any given field,
so they outsmart their Co
workers, that PhDs create
problems rather than solutions,
or that PhDs are incapable of
taking action.
They'll stress that the majority
of PhDs behave in such a manner
because of bad habits picked up
during university days, such as
always finding the faults in
things or gathering too much
data, thus creating a huge bias
against them.
Regardless, PhDs are qualified
to effectively and efficiently
work within a team to find
solutions when problems arise
and be decisive.
You too could fight against that
stereotype by bringing your
research and sharing it with
your supervisors, IE your
stakeholders or customers who
are waiting for your submission.
The product to be managed and
delivered on time.
So when you're confronted with
the statement, I don't care that
you have a PhD, it's better to
not take it personally.
Industry employers tend to have
a bias against PhDs and the
advice is to seek internships to
improve and build new
transferable skills and build
your network.
Thank you all for tuning in, it
has been a pleasure.